Organization Collection Permissions Are Confusing/Ambiguous #451

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MrUnknownDE · 2026-04-05T21:19:03+02:00

MrUnknownDE commented

2026-04-05 21:19:03 +02:00

Originally created by @dathbe on 7/26/2025

Prerequisites

I have searched the existing Closed AND Open Issues AND Discussions
I have searched and read the documentation

Vaultwarden Support String

N/A

Vaultwarden Build Version

1.34.1

Deployment method

Official Container Image

Custom deployment method

No response

Reverse Proxy

traefik

Host/Server Operating System

Linux

Operating System Version

Debian

Clients

Web Vault

Client Version

No response

Steps To Reproduce

Log into vault (web interface)
Click "Admin Console"
Click "Members"
Click a collection assigned to a member
Click the dropdown arrow in the "Permission" box
Permission options are displayed

Expected Result

Permission options give clear indications of what they do.

Actual Result

Permission options are confusing:

The options were recently changed from "View items, except passwords" (and the related "Edit items, except passwords") to "View items, hidden passwords". The meaning of this (which I found after a fair amount of troubleshooting) is "View items, but passwords are hidden". But the phrase could just as easily mean "View items, [and view] hidden passwords".

I suspect this is a copy over from Bitwarden, but I'm hoping someone can tweak it here or at least point me to where I can give the suggestion to Bitwarden directly. There are many solutions, including going back to the unambiguous "View items, except passwords":

"View items, passwords hidden"
"View items, not passwords"
"View items, hide passwords"

You could even change the options to be "View items" and "View items, and passwords".

The issue is compounded by the silly way the options are listed, which one (me) might assume were listed from least to most permissions, yet they are instead listed in this order:

View items
View items, hidden passwords(fewer permissions than previous)
Edit items (more permissions than previous)
Edit items, hidden passwords (fewer permissions than previous)
Manage collection (more permissions than previous)

This order actually encourages users to think that "View items, hidden passwords" means "View items and view hidden passwords".

Logs

N/A

Screenshots or Videos

Happy to share one, but not particularly relevant.

Additional Context

Thanks.

*Originally created by @dathbe on 7/26/2025* ### Prerequisites - [x] I have searched the existing **Closed _AND_ Open** [Issues](https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden/issues?q=is%3Aissue%20) **_AND_** [Discussions](https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden/discussions?discussions_q=) - [x] I have searched and read the [documentation](https://github.com/dani-garcia/vaultwarden/wiki/) ### Vaultwarden Support String N/A ### Vaultwarden Build Version 1.34.1 ### Deployment method Official Container Image ### Custom deployment method _No response_ ### Reverse Proxy traefik ### Host/Server Operating System Linux ### Operating System Version Debian ### Clients Web Vault ### Client Version _No response_ ### Steps To Reproduce 1. Log into vault (web interface) 2. Click "Admin Console" 3. Click "Members" 4. Click a collection assigned to a member 5. Click the dropdown arrow in the "Permission" box 6. Permission options are displayed ### Expected Result Permission options give clear indications of what they do. ### Actual Result Permission options are confusing: The options were recently changed from "View items, except passwords" (and the related "Edit items, except passwords") to "View items, hidden passwords". The meaning of this (which I found after a fair amount of troubleshooting) is "View items, but passwords are hidden". But the phrase could just as easily mean "View items, [and view] hidden passwords". I suspect this is a copy over from Bitwarden, but I'm hoping someone can tweak it here or at least point me to where I can give the suggestion to Bitwarden directly. There are many solutions, including going back to the unambiguous "View items, except passwords": "View items, passwords hidden" "View items, not passwords" "View items, hide passwords" You could even change the options to be "View items" and "View items, and passwords". The issue is compounded by the silly way the options are listed, which one (me) might assume were listed from least to most permissions, yet they are instead listed in this order: 1) View items 2) View items, hidden passwords(fewer permissions than previous) 3) Edit items (more permissions than previous) 4) Edit items, hidden passwords (fewer permissions than previous) 5) Manage collection (more permissions than previous) This order actually _encourages_ users to think that "View items, hidden passwords" means "View items and view hidden passwords". ### Logs ```text N/A ``` ### Screenshots or Videos Happy to share one, but not particularly relevant. ### Additional Context Thanks.

MrUnknownDE closed this issue

2026-04-05 21:19:03 +02:00

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Reference: github/vaultwarden#451